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All in the best possible taste: Strictly's Arlene to bring back Hot Gossip dance troupe for Kenny Everett stage show

By Baz Bamigboye

Last updated at 9:10 AM on 2nd January 2009

Arlene Phillips, the Strictly Come Dancing judge, is bringing back her risque dance troupe Hot Gossip for a new stage show about the zany real-life world of innovative TV and radio star Kenny Everett.

The Hot Gossip dancers were a regular feature of the Kenny Everett shows on television in the late Seventies and through the Eighties.

 

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Raunchy dance troupe Hot Gossip, pictured here in 1978, are poised for a comeback

 

Their sexy routines and costumes (a lot of tight hot-pants, I seem to recall) made their counterparts, Pan's People on Top Of The Pops, look like nuns.

Sarah Brightman, one of Arlene's 'girls', sang Hot Gossip's hit single I Lost My Heart To A Starship Trooper.

 

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Kenny Everett, centre left, and comedian Henry McGee pose with the female dancers of Hot Gossip in 1979

 

 

'Arlene's agreed to bring back Hot Gossip  -  and I want to bring back Kenny Everett's naughty bits,' producer David Pugh joked after I spotted him breakfasting with Arlene at the Wolseley restaurant in Piccadilly, London, recently with his business partner Dafydd Rogers.

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Choreographer and Strictly Come Dancing judge Arlene Phillips, pictured in 1980, is bringing back Hot Gossip

Bringing back Hot Gossip is just one of several elements Pugh has been putting together for the show about Everett.

For a time, in the Seventies and Eighties, DJ and television entertainer Kenny was one of the most controversial stars on radio and television.

His TV shows included comedy sketches, animated sequences, and erotic and exotic routines from Hot Gossip.

But he was always being fired, then re-hired, by BBC radio for indiscreet (but often hilarious) comments about the great and the good of the day.

On one occasion, Everett went to a Conservative Party Conference and declared, when asked what the Tory faithful should do: 'Let's Bomb Russia!'  -  which just happens to be the title, perhaps a tentative one because it's early days, of the stage production Pugh will mount late this year or early next.

'We don't know how we're doing it yet, but the idea is to have a show with a sense of warmth, a sense of having a laugh. Kenny was all about those naughty bits  -  that's what we want to bring out,' Pugh told me.

Everett died in 1995. Pugh said he will travel to Australia soon to meet the star's mother and talk about Let's Bomb Russia.

 

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Hot Gossip were known for their flamboyant costumes and outrageous moves

 

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mojo2007's picture

But very attractive nuns, whereas HG usually tried far too hard and just looked silly.

Simon O's picture

Can you identify them? I got 1st photo ?, Sarah Brightman, Carol Fletcher; 2nd photo Mark Tyme, ?, Roy Gayle; Photo 3 ?; Photo 4 and 5 Lyndsey Ward?

80s Dancer's picture

1st pic - Dominique Wood, Sarah & Carol Fletcher
2nd - Mark Tyme, Dominique & Lee Black
3rd - Lorraine Whitmarsh
4th & 5th Lyndsay Ward

80s Dancer

Simon O's picture

Photo1 Mark Tyme

Photo 2 Roy Gayle

Photo 3 Donna Fielding

Photo 4 ?

Photo 5 Perri Lister?

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Pic 4 is Lorraine Whitmarsh

80s Dancer

mojo2007's picture

I still  feel various Benny Hill sites give good coverage to HG, we do not need to add to pansfan workload by adding them here, partularly as Arlene was  thinking about dance in a very different way to Flick

mojo

W.B.'s picture

Actually, that was not the actual Hot Gossip in that photo of Everett with Henry McGee as Everett; it in fact was the members of Dee Dee Wilde's Pan's People, plus Sue Upton and Nola Haynes, posing with them, in disguise as "Hot Gossamer" from Benny Hill's parody of same.

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We do have a bio section for them (so Gary's workload, really!), but obviously we'll try to get Flick's various troupes done first.

But if anyone wants to chime in and discuss them, feel free to do so!

Simon O's picture

I had noticed that in the biographies section that there are places for HG with many of the dancers included. I had set myself the task of finding photos for the thumbnails on the front page of this HG biographies section so taht Panfan would not have the trouble of doing it. The obvious way seemed to be to take the better quality video from OFTD and You Tube and do some screen captures. But as I don't have a clue who half the hot gossip dancers are it seemed best to post them here for identification. Before I start chopping them down to 250x250 for the thumbnails.

Since a fair number of the dancers also appeared in Dee Dee's Pan's People amongst other troops, it might be of interest to some people the cv of some of these dancers. But I recognise the fact that HG are not to everbodies taste and will refrain from further posts in this section.

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It's ok Simon, please feel free to carry on!  Really, any research you can do can only add to the site, and will be much appreciated, as inevitably there's crossover  in personnel as you say and interest in HG too!

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Thanks for the encouragement Panfan, but due to the ropey quality of most of the HG videos that are about, getting good screen shots is fairly difficult. There is not likely to be too many more.

Alright now, seemed to be about the best quality of the ITV ones. Watching it, I thought it would provide more quality shots. But HG dancers do move quite fast, so freezing the frame reveals either a blur or they are not looking into the camera. I have been inching through the whole video picking out the sharp frames, cropping then resizing to see if an acceptable image is produced at the end.

The later BBC material is available at higher quality, but then I only recognise Floid and I think this outside the scope of most of the personnel crossover.

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This is Lorraine Whitmarsh

 

Dave

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Oh, and that is Perri Lister in pic 5

Dave

TOTP FAN's picture

PS, Let me know if you want anymore of the Hot Gossip ID'd

 

panfan's picture

Please do help all you can guys in providing pictures and names for HG. There are literally dozens of names associated with HG and I just put some of the main ones on the Biography page.

Simon O's picture

Thanks Totp fan  for identifying Lorraine Whitmarsh. Are all the dancers that I haven't identified, her? I thought that set 1 photos 1 and 2 could be a different dancer than set 1 photo 3 and set 2 photo 4. But the former are a bit indistinct.

I have not got any more to post just yet, but I will probably have a few more in a few days. Nice to know that you are able to tell who is who.

Simon.

panfan's picture

I just noticed this is in the Pan's People (General) section. I'll create an HG subforum later and move this there.

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Set one pic 1 are, from left to right Dominique Wood, Sarah Brightman and Carol Fletcher,

If you like Email me some headshots and I can ID them for you

Dave

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Hi Panfan,

I came across this when I was doing the list for the "Getting started guide" so thought it should be the place to point the HG traffic to as it already existed and did not put you to the trouble of setting up a dedicated sub forum straight away. The same is also true for some of the other catagories I hijacked. So in the short term it might be easier just to make the getting started list a bit more excessable rather sorting out all the sub forums.

Only a suggestion though as you know the structure that you are aiming at better than anyone.

Simon.    

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Will do, but it will probably be next week before I get round to it.

Simon.

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Thanks for the help in identifying the dancers, 80s dancer. It would be interesting to learn more about your experiences.

I have been sent a list of HG routines to add to the routines list. Will get there eventually. It's just taking a while to get down the to do list.

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Nice to see somebody else with an interest in HG. TOTP Fan (Dave) and I have been working through video's of HG routines on Kenny Everett's show to identify the dancers. Since you mention the first routine over on Donna Fielding's bio, and a dancer called Lavinia I thought you might be able to help with identifying some of the dancers on this routine. We have only found a 28 second clip of the first version of Supernature on Youtube (Dave spotted it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyqG4qOPwnk&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLA61BDBB80BBBC00D). In this 28 seconds we spotted Dominique Wood, Donna Fielding, Jane Eve (Colthorpe), Mark Tyme and Perri Lister. But there were 3 dancers that Dave did not know (I do the screen shots and Dave does the identifying). Can you identfy and of the 3 dancers in these screenshots? We have ID'ed Jane Eve and Mark Tyme but would like to know who is the male dancer on the left of the picture with 3 faces visible. Also do you know if there are other dancers in this first version of Supernature that are missing from the 28 second clip?

Thanks,

Simon.

80s Dancer's picture

Yes, it's a very young Roy Gayle with Jane & Mark

80s Dancer

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The other two girls are Lavinia Lang & Libby Roberts. This was HG's first outing for Kenny Everett.

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Andy's picture

The picture of Kenny Everett with Henry McGee is not Hot Gossip they are Hills Angels who did a copy of Hot Gossip one time on Benny Hill Show both being at Thames Kenny must have popped in for this photo.

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Yes your right Andy that was the Hot Gossamer routine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inaxE85NRBo.

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Usually I pick Roy out relatively easily, like in Floyd's theme a week later or "If my friends could see me now" the following week. However in the screen shot above, I will have to take your word for it. While Mark is so easily identifiable. But it is nice to know who the other two dancers are, I will enter their names in the routines list once it goes up.

Incidently do you know if the correct version of Roy's surname is Gayle? as I have also seen it written as Gale? 

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It's Roy for sure. Mark, Roy & Lee were the original boys from the groups cabaret days. Floid & Richard joined after Mark & Lee left. The correct surname is Gayle. Roy was the longest serving guy in the group, but Floid was the only dancer from the Thames shows to appear in the BBC series in 1986

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Hi 80s Dancer,

I am not disputing what you say about Lee being in the original line up. But I have been through the whole of the Kenny Everett season 1 routines making screen shots to ID all the dancers and I found Floid in episodes 2-8/ Lee replaces Floid in a season 1 special Ease on down the road routine, broadcast on New Years day 1979. I posted some of the screenshots of floid from this period on his bio here:http://www.panspeople.com/?q=node/293. The only routine Dave and I were not sure about when Identifying Floid was on Walk on the Wild Side looking mean and moody wearing motorcycle leathers and shades (sorry about the blurry screenshot, it was the best I could do).

Simon.

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Yes, that's Floid x

80s Dancer

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Another ID question that Dave and I were struggling with was this time in the routine for the Rolling Stones Honky Tonk Woman broadcast in episode 5 of the 1st seaon of the Kenny Everett show on 31.07.1978. The routine starts and finishes with Mark Tyme and Dominique Wood? on the top of scafolding. The top screen shot is at the end of the routine and shows a fairly clear shot of Dominique with the usual wavy mousey hair.

The middle screen shot is from the start of the routine, same outfit hair looks different fuller, still Dominique?

The bottom screen shot is from the middle of the routine after Mark Tyme has pulled the dancer off the scafolding by the legs. Still the same outfit darker straight hair clearly in two bunches. Is this still Dominique with a wig on? Or another dancer?

If they are all dominique, it must mean the routine was shot in several takes and edited together afterwards, your thoughts on this would be interesting.

Simon.

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It's Dominique!! I have no idea why the hair change...probably Arlene's idea to see her up a bit??? Later on she went a punky blonde. Dominique was the most incredible dancer. Often, the dancers talents were under used. Domi could give any boy dancer a run for their money as you will see almost two minutes in to the Hot Child In The City routine from series one - you will also spot an unfortunate hole in Lyndsey's all on one!! x

80s Dancer

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Thanks 80s Dancer,

Almost there now with season one, just a couple more questions left. First of all, the two screen captures below, again from Honky Tonk Woman. They are quite blurry, but I think they are Lorraine Whitmarsh, am I right?

Then the final question, in the first season there was a best of episode broadcast on 6th September 1978. There is no listing for what was on this episode on the website that I use http://muuta.net/KennyEverett/Thames.html, do you know if there was a HG routine on this episode. If so was it a repeat or something new?

I have got Hot Child in the City down as being season 2 episode 2 but maybe it was on the best of episode in season one that I just mentioned? I had not noticed Lyndsey's split outfit before, but then when I was looking for it I only just spotted it as the quality is not great (19 MB file). Have you found a bit quality video of this one?

At first, I thought that Dominique was much daring than the rest of the dancers. She often has one leg flip over her head leaving not much to the imagination. It was a while before I realised that she did these moves because she could and possibly the other dancers were not able.

I have started working on ID'ing the dancers on season two, once I have got further with that task. I will post any screen shots that I am having problems with. But I think that it will be at least a week or two.

Anyway thanks for the help in season one.

Maybe you would like to tell us how you got to know so much about Hot Gossip. Have you been following them for a long time?

Simon.

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Yes! That's Miss Whitmarsh alright x

80s Dancer

Simon O's picture

Seeing you online suddenly reminded me I had neglected to thank you for this latest confimation.

Simon.

TOTP FAN's picture

I'm sure I read somewhere that Donna was in the group from the start.

Is that the same Libby Roberts from the Benny Hill Show?

Dave

80s Dancer's picture

Hey! The original girls, by that I mean before David Mallet hired Hot Gossip for the Kenny Shows were Wanda Rockiki, Lavinia Lang, Chrissy Wickham, Belinda ?, Judey Ford and Libby Rose. None of that line up made it on to the show, although Lavinia (and Jane and Libby Roberts from Love Machine danced in the first show (Supernature) mentioned above as some new girls were still working with other groups for the BBC. The original Kenny girls were Dominique, Lyndsey Ward, Lorraine Whitmarsh, Perri Lister, Carol Fletcher, Sarah Brightman and Donna. X

80s Dancer

TOTP FAN's picture

Thanks for the info 80s dancer. Were they also on TOTP's in 1976? I saw three girls wearing white t-shirts with Hot Gossip on the front dancing to Blue Jeans.

Dave

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babybear's picture

Hi,

Newbie here. 

I wonder if you can help?  For ages I've been trying to find out who this dancer is.  She's the one in the "Number One Song In Heaven" set with the green leotard on with the thigh length boots, and this one in the "Musclebound" set.  I know it's not Debbie Ash. And speaking to Mark Tyme (on myspace), he said he thinks it's Jane Newman but I'm not sure.

Help!

Bear

80s Dancer's picture

Yes, that's Debbie Ash and Jane Newman from No1 Song. She is also in the pic at the top of this feed in the red dress with Donna Laura Alison Kim Richard Roy & Floid

80s Dancer

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Yes, that's Debbie Ash and Jane Newman from No1 Song. She is also in the pic at the top of this feed in the red dress with Donna Laura Alison Kim Richard Roy & Floid

80s Dancer

Simon O's picture

Hi Baby Bear,

welcome to pp.com, always nice to see another HG fan here. I think we are kind of out numbered. One member the other day said that he had always found them nasty and brutish. Be we know better don't we.

I might start a poll to find out exactly what proportion of people think what about HG.

If you are speaking to Mark Tyme though, you can point him in the direction of PP.com, we are sure to make him feel welcome.

Simon.

80s Dancer's picture

Just in case it causes confusion - Jane Newman & Jane Eve are the same person :-)

80s Dancer

panfan's picture

Welcome from me too Baby Bear: great of you to join us!

And thanks for the clarification, 80s Dancer....

babybear's picture

Who is the girl that used to be mixed up with Debbie Ash?  She was one of the original dancers in HG?  I think she's the same one who is holding the phone in "Making Love on the Phone" with the huge white bow in her hair.

panfan's picture

Really sorry I can't help you there - I hope Simon, 80s Dancer and TOTP Fan come to the rescue before long...

I've a lot to learn about HG!

babybear's picture

Hope so.  :)

babybear's picture

She is the one in the baby doll.  It's not Debbie Ash though because it's too early for her.

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Hi Baby Bear,

Sorry I was out this evening. I have had a quick look at Making Love on the Phone from 16.04.1981 which would have been on KE season 4 on the ITV. I think there was a big exodus in the previous season when Mark Tyme and others left to form Sponooch (or some strange name like that) and Debbie Ash came in as one of the replacements.

I am wondering where you have taken the picture form above as the version of making love on the phone that I am refering to everybody is wearing white. I vaguely remember there was a version of it on one of the secret policemen balls. The picture is a little difficult to make a positive ID on, but TOTP fan and 80s dancer are usualy better than me.

I am still working through KE season 2 routines identifying dancers. It is often not as easy as you would think telling who is who as they would wear more than one outfit and wear wigs and redo the makeup between one shot and the next. But I must get a move on and do some more work in that area.

The only dancer who looked anything like Debbie Ash in Season 1 was Donna Fielding pictured palm to palm at the top of this thread in a furry bikini.

Simon.

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